Philmont Packing List
- robtimm1865
- Oct 8, 2024
- 7 min read
PERSONAL GEAR | |||
Backpacking Gear |
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Equipment | QTY | Philmont Comments | Troop 1865 Comments |
Backpack | 1 | Large enough to be able to carry all personal gear and your share of crew gear. 65 to 75 L capacity recommended. Rental available with pack cover for $30 | Make sure you read and understand the sizing and buyers guide Mr. Timm sent before you buy. The troop has a limited number of packs to lend. |
Pack Cover | 1 | Waterproof, durable cover that fits over full pack | Make sure it's big enough |
Sleeping bag | 1 | Recommended comfort rating of 20 degrees and weigh less than 4 lbs. | Consider a bag liner to keep your bag clean. This will also allow you to bring a lighter bag. |
Waterproof stuff sack | 1 | For Sleeping Bag. Alternatively, use compression sack lined with plastic bag | A compressible dry bag is ideal. You do not want a wet sleeping bag. |
Sleeping pad | 1 | For padding and insulation from ground |
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Headlamp or flashlight | 1 | Durable and lightweight - Bring extra batteries. |
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Trekking poles |
| Use rubber tips to prevent trail erosion | Use rubber tips to prevent trail erosion |
Pillow |
| Small, packable | Small, packable |
Food & Water | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Bowl | 1 | Deep bowl of lightweight material |
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Utensils | 1 | Only a Spoon or Spork are recommended |
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Water Bottles & Reservoir | 4+ Liters | At least 4L personal capacity any comboination of Bottle or Reservoir |
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Mug/Cup | 1 | 12-20 oz. Measuring style recommended |
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Clothing & Footwear | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Underwear | 3 to 4 | Moisture-wicking |
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Sports Bra | 2 | Synthetic Moisture Wicking | Obviously not required for a male crew |
Moisture-wicking T-shirt | 2 | Moisture-wicking. Avoid Cotton |
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Long Sleeve Shirt | 1 | Moisture-wicking. Avoid Cotton |
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Quick-Drying Pants/Shorts | 2 | Pants are needed for certain program including conservation | We require at least one pair of trousers. Recommend getting a pair of zip-off legged hiking pants. |
Lightweight Fleece | 1 | Lightest and Warmest available. Wool sweater or fleece pullover recommended |
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Boots | 1 Pair | Sturdy, supportive, and broken in. Well broken in boots that are durable and fit comfortably. Trail runners are accepted but ankle support with boots is highly recommended. | Please check the boot buying guide Mr. Timm sent before you buy. Fit is the most important variable and ensure you try them on with a pack on. |
Socks | 3 to 4 pair | Wool or Synthetic, not cotton. Liners are optional and help prevent friction and wicks sweet away from foot. | Consider smart wool. |
Camp Shoes/Stream Shoes | 1 pair | Used in camp, stream crossing, some backcountry programs | Must be closed toe and packable. |
Sleep Clothes | 1 set | Only worn in sleeping bag. Light weight T-shirt and Gym shorts recommended. |
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Long underwear | 1 | Mid-weight syndic top and/or bottoms are recommended but optional. Used for cold mornings or nights. | Most scouts will bring a top but not bottoms. |
Ditty Bags/Sealable Plastic Bags | 6 to 10 | Useful for packing and keeping clothes dry, cleaning laundry, and pack organization | Consider color-coded dry stuff sacks for clothes. |
Rain & Cold Weather | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Rain jacket | 1 | Durable rain gear is highly recommended |
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Rain Pants | 1 | In heavy rain, rain pants are vital for warmth | Many consdier this an optional item but it can be a life saver during extened cold rainy weather |
Gloves | 1 pair | Glove Liners recommended for cold morning/evening and summit days |
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Warm hat | 1 | For sleeping, morning & evening, and summits | Fleece watch cap |
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Insulated jacket | 1 | Packable down or synthetic puffy or fleece. Depending on personal preference, should expect lows in the mid 30s in the higher elevation camps. | This may be optional if you have long underwear and a lightweight fleece and rain jacket. |
Health & Hygiene | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Toothbrush and toothpaste | 1 | Larger toothpaste tubes may be considered "crew gear" |
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Menstrual products |
| Tampons/Pads & disposal items, strongly recommended for all females to bring - - See Feminine Specific Hygiene | Obviously not required for a male crew |
Prescription medications |
| In-Date (not expired) Enough for the entire trek. | Ensure recorded on medical forms and lead crew Advisor knows the details |
Camp Towel | 1 | Small, quick-drying |
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Foot Powder |
| May be kept as "Crew Gear" - Can soothe tired feet, absorb moisture, and reduce chance of blisters |
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Sun Protection | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Hat |
| Wide brim or baseball - - Protect ears and face from sun |
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Sunglasses |
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Lip balm |
| Moisturizing balm with SPF 25 or greater |
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Miscellaneous | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Whistle | 1 | For emergency situations - to signal |
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Daypack | 1 | For use on summit days and side hikes. | You will need something to bring on side hikes |
Bandana/ Tubular Headgear | 2 | Serves as washcloth, hot pot holder, neckerchief and a variety of other uses. |
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Cards or games |
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Lashing Straps |
| To hold sleeping bag on pack. | Optional item. Most packs don't need them |
Cash |
| $20 to $50 in small bills for Backcountry Canitas and Trading Posts |
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Camera |
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Pocket knife |
| A few per crew is sufficient |
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Watch |
| Several recommended throughout crew members. Highly Recommended for the Crew Leader | Knowing the time is not an Advisor function and your phone will be dead. Wear a watch. |
Fishing Equipment |
| Including NM State fishing license (Everyone 18+ must purchase online or at ToTT, under 18 can purchases at certain backcountry camps Hunting Lodge, Fish Camp) | Only for crews that plan to fish |
Postcards |
| Pre-Stamped Mailing available on trek at Staffed Camps. | Optional |
Journal and pen/pencil |
| Useful in emergency situations and as a keepsake. Philmont Passport is great for journaling. | A pen and notepad is not optional. Everyone must have them |
CREW GEAR | |||
Equipment Provided by Crew | |||
Necessary items for each crew to bring or purchase upon arrival. | |||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Sewing Kit |
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Philmont Thunder Ridge Tent |
| Crews should plan on using the least amout of backpacking tents while following all BSA Barriers to Abuse. Weight is 5lbs5oz. Footprint is 88"x54". Personal tents must be fully enclosed. | We will not use the Philmont tents. Crew members will bring their own. Plan sleeping arrangements to minimize the number of tents while keeping youth with more than two years age difference separate. Only adults may tent alone. |
Backpacking Stove | 2 | White Gas or Isobutane fuels. Stove needs a widebase low to the ground. Highly recommend Isobutane stoves being able to burn with canister upside down and rightside up. | Troop will supply MSR Whisperlite stoves and fuel bottles |
Stove Fuel |
| White Gas recommend 2 - 20oz bottles. Isobutane recommend 3 - 8oz/220g canisiters. Can resupply both white gas and isobutane at commisary camps. | Troop will supply |
First Aid Kit |
| Sufficient for crew and easily accessible | Troop will supply |
Duct Tape |
| Small amount for trail repairs | Troop will supply |
Waterproof Ground Cloth |
| For Philmont Thunder Ridges 5'x7' is the size. | Each scout with a tent will need to supply an appropriate footprine |
Nylon Cord | 3 | 50' x 1/8" for the dining fly | Troop will supply |
Sunscreen |
| recommend SPF 25 or higher | Troop will supply |
Insect Repellent |
| No aerosol cans | Troop will supply |
Multi-Tool |
| To remove lid from cooking pot & to repair gear. | Troop will supply |
Trowel/shovel | 1 | For digging catholes when away from camp or camping in low impact area. | Troop will supply |
Carabiner | 1 | Needed for hanging Bear Bags. Needed to be climbing rated and locking gate is preferred. A carabiner designed to be a key ring is not sufficient. | Troop will supply |
Matches/Lighter | 4 | Pack in a waterproof container a few per crew is sufficient |
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Compass | 4 | Liquid Filled with rotating dial, A few per crew is sufficient | Liquid Filled with rotating dial, A few per crew is sufficient |
Philmont Sectional Maps | 2 sets | Overall maps are not designed for navigation. Which maps that are needed will be depend on Itinerary | Troop will supply |
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Spices/ Hot Sauce |
| Personal preference to compliment cooked meals. | Troop will supply |
Water Purifiers/Filters |
| All water from streams, lakes, etc. need to be purified. Water at staffed camps are purified unless noted. Micropure tablets are issued so filters are optional and will require a repair kit on the trail. | Troop will supply. Bringing the pumps is optional. Philmont will supply tablets. |
Extra Water Capacity (for Dry Camps) | 2 | Recommend each person have 2 liters of extra water capacity in collapsible water bottles for Dry Camps | The Troop will issue this with crew gear. DO NOT BUY. |
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Equipment Provided by Philmont | |||
This is a list of items provided by Philmont free of charge, except for any damaged or replacment charges upon return. Crews may bring their own equipment for their crew but it MUST be equivalent in specs. | Note - Most of this equipment will be provided by the Troop. We will minimize the use of Philmont issued equipment | ||
Equipment | QTY | Comments | Comments |
Thunder Ridge Shelter (Dining Fly) |
| 12'x10' wt 2lbs8oz. | Troop will supply an alternative |
Philmont Thunder Ridge Tent |
| Crews should plan on using the least amout of backpacking tents while following all BSA Barriers to Abuse. Weight is 5lbs5oz. Footprint is 88"x54". Personal tents must be fully enclosed. | We will not use the Philmont tents. Crew members will bring their own. Plan sleeping arrangements to minimize the number of tents while keeping youth with more than two years age difference separate. Only adults may tent alone. |
Cooking Pot | 1 | Must be large enough to cook for everyone in the crew. 8qt aluminim pot with lid 1lbs5.8oz | Troop will supply an alternative |
Dishwashing Pot - 2nd Cooking Pot | 1 | Must be large enough to saintitize dishes by submerging in boiling water. 8qt aluminum pot without lid 1lbs4oz. | Troop will supply an alternative |
Large Spoon | 1 | Large serving spoon. 2.6oz | Troop will supply an alternative |
Plastic Trash Bags |
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Dishwashing Soap, Hand Sanitizer, Scrub Pads |
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Water Purification Tablets, Micropur - 1 tablet treats 1 liter | |||
Bear Rope | 2 | Nylon, wt 1lbs1oz. Philmon requires crews to use Philmont's or equivalent dimension ropw. 100' long 1/4" diameter. Smaller diameter rope may be lighter, but experince has shown that they are more difficult to hoist up and they are more likely to frey on the bear cables. | Troop will supply an alternative |
Bear Bags | 5 to 8 | For Hanging smellables. Formula for total number is 1/2 overall crew size plus one. So a crew of 12 would take 7 bear bags. | Troop will supply an alternative |
Food Strainer and Scraper |
| 8oz. | Troop will supply an alternative |
Toilet Paper |
| Resupplied with Food Pickups. | Resupplied with Food Pickups. |
Optional gear available from Philmont | |||
Salt/ Pepper |
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Collapsible Poles | 2 | For dining fly wt. 1lb6oz. Trekking poles are a convenient substitute. | Recommend crew use trekking poles and save the weight |
Hot Pot Tongs | 1 | 3.5oz. Multi-tool can be used instead. | Troop will supply an alternative |